January 2009
Interview

Don Carswell
President
Optech Inc.
Mobile based LiDAR will take RS by storm
How does it feel after
selling over 100 units of
ALTM? Did you do any analysis
on the demand of units
from different regions of the
world?
We are quite pleased about
that; indeed, we have touched
about 140 now. And the
demand for LiDAR equipment
is continuously increasing.
As far as the analysis of
demand for LiDAR is concerned,
we have done that
along with a number of commercial
studies. One of the
things that everyone points to
is the increasing demand for
LiDAR data. Depending on the
study on which you believe, it
is growing by about 15% a
year. We are seeing an
increased demand in the airborne
LiDAR mapping market
and the new area that is coming
up is the mobile LiDAR
market. This is where we have
high business projections.
Clearly, there is a lot of
demand for accurate geo-referenced
LiDAR data for a variety
of applications.
Could you elaborate on
‘many products - one
family’ philosophy of Optech?
The way our products complement
each other could be
stated in two parts. One part is
complementarity in terms of
their manufacturer. All our
products share the underlying
technology called iFlex, i.e.
Integrated Flexible Electric
Optics. Whether it is an airborne
terrain mapping system
or a mobile system, the fundamental
laser design approach
and the fundamental electronics
are common. They are then
specially shaped for the applications.
From the manufacturing
standpoint, we do try to
make sure that our inventions
and discoveries in one product
are utilised for other range of
products too.
Second aspect of the family
approach is the uniformity in
the software aspects. For our
customers, it would mean that
we use the same planning and
processing software in our
mobile product (LYNX Mobile
Mapper) as we use in our airborne
product. For somebody
doing an airborne survey and
also wanting to get higher resolution
intensive data as part
of mobile survey, though the
equipment is different, the
software and all the training
they need to impart to their
employees will be same. This
makes it easier for the user to
adopt our LiDAR equipment
since the design philosophy
and many operations are the
same.
What motivated you to
invest in mobile based
technology?
We were looking towards this
for years. The big push came
when the buyers of both -
ALTM and ILWIS on tripod
map together, made requests
for integrated solution where
ILWIS is part of the mounted
equipment on a vehicle and
which they could be driven
around to get high resolution
city models. Or for measuring
all the wires underneath the
bridges without moving from
place to place. So we took
those requests. But rather
than having Applanix for
ILWIS, we stepped back and
started from scratch. We did
some preliminary design and
went again to our customers
for further suggestions. Then
we came up with LYNX system.
How do you see the
complementarity of
airborne and mobile LiDAR
mapping systems?
The complementarity of
mobile and air borne mapping
has turned out to be really
fruitful. There are places
where conducting air-borne
survey becomes difficult, such
as cities. You can have an
excellent imagery of the whole
city but certain aspects pose
challenges. One such problem
area is with shadows. Also
when you get further down
the city to street level, obtaining
the desired resolution
becomes difficult. The mobile
mapper solves the problem
and you have data sets at
higher resolution. The combination
of both the datasets
gives fantastic resolution on
all aspects of the city and
gives completely compatible
datasets.
way engineer would want
details up to centimetre level,
say how the crown of the road
looks like. Also, in case of
bridges, what kind of terrain is
shaped underside the bridge.
An airborne system will not be
of use to obtain such fine
details but mobile system
will be.
Civil engineering is an exciting
area where this mobile LiDAR
system is proving to be very
economical. The availability of
more economical data is
poised to open up more and
more application of LiDAR in
civil engineering. This is a system
that measures hundreds
of thousands of points in a
second at centimetre accuracy,
can do repetitive surveys of
any construction site and
because there are no complexities
of deploying an aircraft
or weather restrictions,
one gets complete visual
datasets. The strength of this
LiDAR is that it can work 24
hours a day along with the civil
engineering work in big projects.
How do claim this mobile
system to be an economical
option?
The equipment costs quite
less. It is hundreds of thousands
less than any airborne
system. It is also economical in
terms of area coverage vis-avis
the labour deployed for a
similar amount of area. The
system proves cheaper than
the direct acquisition of the
data.
Earlier, it used to be like camera
systems added with
LiDAR systems, but it is a different
case with our system.
We have a LiDAR system
mounted on camera and it is
meant to have very higher
accuracy elevation.
What are the key drivers
of LiDAR industry?
One of them is, which you
might find funny, is our longingness
for 3D. We live in 3D
and we experience it. We are
3D creatures and we desire
for it and this, I feel, is the
basic driver for LiDAR. Along
with it is the level of advancement
we are going through.
Your computer advances
everyday and so are the software.
The datasets are getting
more intense in terms of
points per sq mtr and more
and more information may be
pulled out from such data.
Data currency, i.e., how fresh is
the data, is going to be another
major driver. There are certain
amounts of LiDAR data
available for public and
becoming 'commodity' and
universally available. For you
and me, the quality of this
available data may not matter
since we are not using it for
professional purposes. The
data may be three years old.
But in case of a professional
utilisation of the datasets, one
needs as fresh and as accurate
data as possible. This
requirement of data currency
too is moving up in the
industry.
Large infrastructure projects is
another area of growth. In
such projects, the challenge is
managing the information
about what you are actually
building and how it is different
from what you have planned
to build. As per certain statistics,
about 10% of the cost of
the project is expended on
information management - it
goes off in non-timely availability
of information. There
too, you have LiDAR data saving
the cost. There are software
at back office that will
give you time-line based information
on the quantum of
work done, the stage at which
the cut and land fill volumes
are, etc.
Do you see more opportunities
in Asian countries
with restrictions on flying?
There will be a natural fading
out of restriction policies on
aerial mapping. This will primarily
be driven, first by the
availability of mobile LiDAR
systems. You have such systems
and you may drive
through anywhere using any
vehicle. Second is more and
more availability of very high
resolution satellite imagery on
the Web. This does not mean
that there will be a boom in
aerial borne data but this
surely will lead to increased
demand for data and how it
could be obtained. So, for
example, India can deploy
mobile LiDAR systems in
great number.
For me, availability of data is
key to economical development.
In China, there are
restrictions on flying but they
are not letting down the acquisition
of LiDAR data. Similarly,
there are areas where ease
exists in terms of restrictions
since the key development
projects need to be finished
within set timeframes. If
restrictions become too tough,
then time gets wasted. The
sooner you finish the project,
the more benefit on the
investment.
What are the areas of
growth and what are the
challenges?
The challenge remains that
the solutions are yet not as
complete as they can be. As
new applications of data
arrive, the actual solution that
takes full advantage of that in
the most economical fashion
usually follows. That is, kind of,
a global problem.
Growth is quite uniform
around the world and this is
due to reasons. We see good
growth in BRIC (Brazil, Russia,
India, China) countries backed
by development related projects.
We are also seeing
growth in Europe and North
America. That is driven by
more advanced applications
like city management. In fact,
there is no area of the world
where we are not seeing
growth for remote sensing
systems whether they are
camera systems, LiDAR or
hyperspectral scanners. The
whole RS industry looks
robust, though with certain
impediments in terms of
software and availability of
trained manpower. You also
need an environment where
issues like getting export
permits for equipments are as
low as possible because all
these systems contain ultimately
export controlled technology.
This puts up an extra
layer of complexity. Things are
difficult for start-ups rather
than established companies. It
is of course not the laser
technology but basically
geopositioning technology. So
things required in an Inertial
Measurement Unit (IMU),
most of them start their lives
as either missile technology or
rocket technology. So that
poses a challenge but it is not
insurmountable for most of
the countries.
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